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Design your life to include more money, health and happiness with less stuff, space and energy.

Follow Up on The Unwanted Gift

2 weeks ago, I wrote a post asking what I should do with unwanted gifts. It elicited strong reactions both sympathetic and not-so-sympathetic.

My tone might have tipped the balance toward the unsympathetic. I called the particular gift “crap” and might have implied it was beneath my refined aesthetic sensibilities (I’m paraphrasing). To many, I sounded like a stuck-up ingrate. Fair enough. This was not my intention and I apologize for coming off as such.

Had I to write it over again, I might have made clear that the post was not about what great taste I have, how thoughtless gift-givers are or what to do with stuffed monkeys in wicker baskets.

For this last question, there were suggestions galore about places to donate the gifts such as women’s shelters, animal shelters, Secret Santa societies and other places where the gifts will go to those with limited financial means.

Other suggestions erred on the side of politeness, including taking ”a picture of the monkey with your baby (the baby will never know) and then send it to them” before getting rid of it.

Though I tread back into these contentious waters haltingly, I would posit that donating and being polite is more of a short-term solution. It does not change behavior. As commenter eva put it:

taking one trip to the goodwill is simple and may not have a big impact, but it occurs to me that taking a hundred trips to the goodwill is another and [gets] complicated over time.

Nor do these strategies does help communicate to the gift-giver what’s important to you; and isn’t that what giving gifts is about: giving based on what the receiver wants, not the giver?

And while I won’t press this point too far, it should be noted that cheap consumer goods are not necessarily benign. They depend on cheap overseas labor and carry heavy environmental tolls. Watch the Story of Stuff for an expansion on this point. Just saying.

One of the best suggestions I found came from Beth who wrote:

If a person lets it be known in a nice way that they are ‘picky’ it also allows others to become ‘picky’ and in the end you save lots of money, because you are not wasting money on something that will be dumped or given away.

In other words, let people know you’re picky and they’ll be less likely to get you an obligatory gift. Dealing with the stigma associated with this designation is probably easier than dealing with the choreography of managing these situations.

Another suggestion came from kirjsten who wrote:

Next time you have a party or an event where you expect gifts may be given, tell people explicitly “In lieu of gifts to us, please make a donation to “Greater Chicago Food Depository” or whatever charity you prefer. This way, people can honor you & your milestone, whatever it is, and you will maintain control over what comes into your home.

This is a useful suggestion as it says what people should give rather than what they should not. Some people will refuse to show up without a gift. It also handles those casual events where smaller gifts often stack up.

Of course there may be no easy way to do this. Choosing a lifestyle that runs counter to mainstream values is usually beset with communication breakdowns as commenter Em highlights:

The hardest part about being a minimalist, I find, is explaining to others that you have thought carefully about some of society’s expectations and are choosing to reject them. How do I impress on people the difference between not wanting anything and wanting nothing?

Then again, maybe behavior change is an incremental process–one that requires tact and leading by example–as Doris Anne Brady suggests:

Better to approach a situation slowly and let people make grass root discoveries. Being too harsh, too soon could destroy what you would ultimately like to do.

Do you have any further thoughts on this matter, let us know?

image credit: Beauty and the Budget

  • s

    My family insists on giving me gifts for my “home”. My husband and I are VERY minimalist, we live in a tiny NYC apt and don’t like decorative knick knacks. We have a very obvious aesthetic…yet we keep getting tacky paintings, souvenirs from gift shops, ginormous fake flowers and unnecessary kitchen appliances as birthday/christmas gifts! What’s worse is that whenever family visit they ask where their present is…..I know these gifts were given lovingly and don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings so we hide all these awful gifts until that family member is visiting. Then we take it out and display it prominently.
    It’s quite a terrible solution. HELP!

    • Evan van den Berg

      What kind of gifts do you give them? They might feel they are exchanging like for like. In the end there is no way to avoid encountering them about it, by either telling them that you have no room for those kinds of gifts in your life and you’d appreciate it much more of they saved the money or gave it to a charity or whatever you prefer. Try and explain to them why it is you don’t want more gifts, that your not only satisfied with what you have but you want to try and be satisfied with even less and their making it hard for you cause you know the sentiment behind the gifts but also struggle to fit them into this lifestyle of yours. I’m sure most people will understand and if they don’t you could maybe suggest doing something with them instead of getting something from them.

  • David B

    I’m going to guess that when the people who care about you buy you a present, they don’t buy you something that is “crap”. I’m guessing this because you sound a lot like me. My friends and family know that when I buy something for myself, I rarely settle for something that is not exactly what I want. So the gifts I receive are usually very carefully picked (or they give up and give me a gift card). I learned quickly that baby gifts are a whole different story. Because a baby has no real opinion one way or the other, people buy what THEY like. When my first child was born, I didn’t suggest “appropriate” gifts because people really enjoy buying what they like. I thought it would be rude to suggest otherwise. And while it will seem like a river of junk flowing into your house, your baby won’t be a baby forever. But here is the kicker: In a few years your toddler will love cheap plastic crap, and in a few more years your child will be requesting cheap plastic crap.

    Many of my first child’s toys went to my second child. And after that they went to a family that simply couldn’t afford many toys. While they inevitably ended up in a landfill somewhere, they were at least well used before they got there. I guess in the end, I felt that was the best I could do.

    • lifeedited

      we are, admittedly, first time parents and as your comment suggests, there might be more art here than science. your point is good about babies not necessarily articulating their preferences; i guess i’m taking it on faith that people associate the parents’ tastes with the baby’s–not necessarily true.

      perhaps all this will become clear should we have a second kid. right now, the stuff he has seems pretty ample for both him and his yet-born sibling, yet we still get more.

      and yes, i recall my own preference for plastic crap as a child. i’ll blithely think my child will be different until that day ;-) .

    • http://www.facebook.com/elysiareneeherriot Elysia Renee Herriot

      I am a first time parent myself and when we had a baby shower (really casual with near and dear) we wrote on the facebook invite that we have already been generously given most of the baby essentials and that we really didn’t expect gifts at the shower. Knowing that people like to give gifts, particularly, as an above poster noted, for new babies, communicating that they are part of the child’s ‘village’ and want to help out and be involved. So we added that any size of clothing will be appreciated and asked people to consider supporting small businesses, ethical manufacturing and natural materials. We also asked to please avoid plastic and softies.

      Rather than stressing poverty as a way to get useful items we stressed how small our house was! Over 90% of the clothes, toys and useful items our baby has were gifts. Having criteria like this for some other kind of event would be crass indeed but when people buy baby gifts they really really want them to be useful to you. They also will buy for their taste not yours so while all of his things are not ones I would have chosen we truly did avoid getting a hundred soft toys or almost anything made from plastic. To this day our loved ones seem to be following the suggestions from the baby shower when they buy for our son (now 16months old) and nobody seems put out in the slightest. I couldn’t be happier that I communicated our feelings about what we needed and wanted.

      Oh and I think the notion that all kids love plastic crap is complete nonsense
      and if it were true that some sort of innate preference existed it
      certainly isn’t one that should be ambivalently condoned.

  • stephanie

    I’ve been working on becoming a minimalist for at least 10 years. I say “working on it” becuase as much as I give away/donate to others, other people in my life keep giving me more things. I have asked for money to be donated in my name, I’ve asked for experience gifts and/or consumables (special treats I wouldn’t ordinarily buy like candy, etc). I can say that some people do try to understand me and accomodate my wishes, but many do not. For those that don’t I’ve noticed that many are addicted to shopping (or that is their main hobby), and they “need” to have someone to buy for. Others love a cluttered lifestyle and can’t understand why I don’t want that as well. Either way, it is more about them than me. I’ve given gifts back, saying thank you and its lovely, but I just dont need it -I already have one just like it. I’ve sent thank you’s and then donated the items. Also- I always let people know in our conversations that I am in the process of decluttering my house and want to downsize. I try to put it out there in a neutral conversation, so I am not commenting on their lifestyle or any particular gift. It’s difficult because some people think we are wierd, some people think that we really don’t mean what we say and some people just get mad. But, in the end all we can do is continue to donate/shovel it out/regift etc. We can’t change these folks. But, I can tell you that MY gift giving has changed. I give cash, I give experiences, I give time. I think it will take a huge cultural shift away from shopping as a hobby before other people come on board. Perhaps the kids coming out of college will embrace minimalism as many struggle to find good jobs in their field.

    • lifeedited

      thanks for sharing. a gift-giving post is forthcoming.

    • Moccasin

      I agree with Stephanie that it is about the gratification of the giver. It is quite frustrating to have someone you are helping support to give something they thought was cute seen on an online shopping addiction (QVC or HSN etc). When they are not going to make it without MY financial help, I resent receiving an impulse gift. Maybe they need to have someone to care for, but caring implies sensitivity to what is important to ME. Obviously, I care what happens to this person or I would not be giving money to make ends meet for them–they are not a family member. In such a case, giving ME a GIFT CARD would be a joke. Don’t claim to be destitute and then waste MY hard earned money on JUNK.

      My gift giving has also changed. I give gift cards for my granddaughters to avoid creating storage problems for the mama–she is a neatnik. Or I ask the mama what each girl would like, and give that. I figure my real role is to be there for the all important college fund enrichment. The choice between ephemeral and enduring is good to think about.

  • Caitlin

    Oh dear, is it just me? or is it because it is out of context? What IS the difference between ‘not wanting anything’ and ‘wanting nothing’?

    • http://www.facebook.com/elysiareneeherriot Elysia Renee Herriot

      yeah I didn’t understand that part either.

    • Em

      Wow, I have tried to answer this question about eight different ways, but none of them says what I really mean. I truly find it difficult to explain the difference. In the absence of a compelling essay, I will resort to college logic. ‘Not wanting anything’ means that there is no single object that you particularly want. ‘Wanting nothing’ means that you want not to be given any objects at all.

      In my case, while I do appreciate the thought and love that goes into giving me gifts, not giving me a gift would make me happier than any gift you could give me. I’d rather just have the affection and not be burdened with the token, however beautiful it is.

  • dejrr

    A huge part of the problem is that we all have too much stuff in the first place and most of us have what we need. I am asked at every birthday and Christmas for gift ideas for myself and family members. It’s hard to come up with meaningful ideas and my usual response is “I don’t know.” My DIL tried the donate-to-a-charity route at her son’s birthday parties and eventually gave up. It was simply too confusing, not helped by the fact that grandparents felt they had a right to enjoy shopping for something that would delight a little boy; and I don’t think we were wrong. Gift giving isn’t just about the recipient; it’s also about the giver. Some people think cash/gift cards is a copout, but I like the idea of giving someone the pleasure of shopping at his/her leisure. It also lets me out of shopping — can you tell I hate shopping? I think Doris Anne Brady is right — starting small and letting people catch your vision is more effective than hitting them over the head with a 2×4, but it takes lots and lots of reinforcement.

  • Nick

    Let me add my perspective as someone who has lived an even more acute version of the gift-giving ‘problem’: in China. I have just come to the US after spending two and a half years in China with my Chinese wife and her relatively wealthy family in China. In the beginning, one of the toughest things for me was the gift giving culture, or more specifically, the constant materialism and waste I saw every time a gift was exchanged (usually, on my part, received). It is practically required in the modern culture that at every business meeting, every dinner, every family event, every visit, a gift must be exchanged. The more lavish the better. It pained me. It reached a climax when my wife’s father, someone who loves showing affection for members of his family, gave me yet another gift of clothing that I felt I didn’t need, and I was visibly annoyed! Very uncharacteristcally, he was offended too. Oops.

    It took a long time for me to learn that there is a whole lot more to a happy life than just getting what you desire, even if in your heart you feel you’re doing the right thing. A happy life is about balancing your own desires, however noble, with those of others, and the cold hard realities of our world. A gift, material or otherwise, is almost always given out of kindness. Yes, material gifts are easier, more culturally accepable, and mostly extremely wasteful of our precious resources. Most people don’t realise that. They we simply doing the same thing as you – trying to be happy – in the paradigm of their own circumstance. This should be the starting point of any persuasion or ‘communication’ about your own paradigm.

    My wife and I have a whole room full of gifts for our wedding in China which we graciously accepted owing to cultural norms. I didn’t have the luxury as you do in the US to even try to communicate my own values. My personal values don’t really matter anyway. What matters is doing the right thing. Keep graciously accepting any gift, keep communicating your own desires with great empathy, and keep looking for great and imaginative things to do with those unwanted gifts. There is no ‘secret weapon’ or solution to the human condition.

    That said, I’d LOVE to set up a company / organisation that deals with unwanted gifts in an imaginative (or even profitable) way. I have web engineering skills. And a not so secret ambition to take the idea to China. If there are others in the Bay area interested in this, please contact me at n8vision at gmail.com.

  • http://electronicholas.com/ Nick

    Let me add my perspective as someone who has lived an even more acute version of the gift-giving ‘problem’: in China. I have just come to the US after spending two and a half years in China with my Chinese wife and her relatively wealthy family in China. In the beginning, one of the toughest things for me was the gift giving culture, or more specifically, the constant materialism and waste I ‘saw’ every time a gift was exchanged (usually, on my part, received). It is practically required in Chinese culture that at every business meeting, every dinner, every family event, every visit, a gift must be exchanged. The more lavish the better. It pained me. It reached a climax when my wife’s father, someone who loves showing affection for members of his family, gave me yet another gift of clothing that I felt I didn’t need, and I was visibly annoyed! Very uncharacteristically, he was offended too. Oops.

    It took a long time for me to learn that there is a whole lot more to a happy life than just getting what you desire, even if that’s less stuff, and even if in your heart you feel you’re doing the right thing. A happy life is about balancing your own desires, however noble, with those of others, and the cold hard realities of our world. A gift, material or otherwise, is almost always given out of kindness. Yes, material gifts are easy, culturally accepable, and mostly extremely wasteful of our precious resources. Most people don’t realise that. They are simply doing the same thing as you – trying to be happy – in the paradigm of their own circumstance. This needs to be the basis of any persuasion or ‘communication’ about your own paradigm.

    My wife and I have a whole room full of gifts for our wedding in China which we graciously accepted owing to cultural norms. I didn’t have the luxury as you do in the US to even try to communicate my own values. My personal values don’t really matter anyway. What matters is doing the right thing. Keep graciously accepting every gift, keep communicating your own lifestyle and environmental choices with great empathy, and keep looking for imaginative things to do with those unwanted gifts. There is no ‘secret weapon’ or solution to the human condition. No quick way to change peoples values.

    That said, I’d LOVE to set up a company / organisation that deals with unwanted gifts in an imaginative (or even profitable) way. I have web engineering skills. And a not so secret ambition to take the idea to China. If there are others in the SF Bay Area interested in this, please contact me at n8vision at gmail.

  • Marrena

    Let me explain to you why you are wrong in this. You are assuming a gift for a baby is like a birthday present or a romantic gift. This is not correct and shows you are misreading the social situation. It also shows that you are a new parent.
    A baby gift is a symbol saying “it takes a village”. It is a token to represent the giver’s willingness to help raise your child, and God forbid, if something bad happens to you that the baby will have others interested in his/her well being.
    Unlike a birthday gift or romantic gift, the primary thing is not to please your taste. The primary thing is the symbolic value. You will offend your friends and family by choosing this particular time to lecture them about your minimalist taste, particularly since your baby may not have your minimalist taste. The only graceful way to achieve your goal is to understand the nuances of the etiquette situation. These gifts are a symbol of a future willingness to help. And while you may not want that help now, when your child is a toddler and you are looking around for babysitters, you may regret burning your bridges. So you ask for help now. If at all plausible, plead poverty. Explain that you are having trouble paying for all the diapers (baby clothes, stroller, car seat, etc.), that the baby is more expensive than you were expecting. Then you will receive consumable diapers, consumable clothes (yes, baby clothes are consumable, the way they spit up), and a practical stroller and car seat. These particular things may not be to your taste either, but think of the landfills and the money you saved and content yourself that the baby will grow out of all of it very very soon.
    If you are too rich to plausibly say that, start hitting the idea of a college fund very heavily and ask for bonds for the baby’s future tuition. Even the richest person can plead future poverty, especially with the way college tuition keeps rising.

  • CD

    Having written the comment about taking a picture with it… yeah… that’s me,,, always erring on the side of politeness.

  • Adnovitam

    A bit outside the box – and a bit hardcore – but one reason I didn’t have children was because I am serious about the planet and minimalism. Of course, if I were a parent, I would have a different view. But for now, it is “more people = more stuff”. Again, this is beside the point but it is a real point. I would think it is almost impossible to keep clutter/stuff down to a minimum with children or pets.

    I have had a hard time getting people not to bring gifts, so now I request ephemeral items like food, drink or flowers. Those things people can understand, especially if they are from a different generation. People who have lived through world wars know forced deprivation and like to celebrate that they don’t have to be deprived anymore. Those gifts fit both of our ideas of nice things to give.

    Recycling items is easy when you think who would like it, or if it can be sold. A friend and I go in for car boot sales (like rummage sales only from your car trunk) in the UK and get rid of a lot of stuff that way.

    Also, you have to be careful giving gifts in other cultures. I was recently in Namibia and gave away to a housekeeper two items I’d been clinging to for 20 years. I don’t think she wanted them, but I got the impression that it wasn’t good in her culture to turn down a gift. I said, “You can pass these to other people if you’d like,” to which she said, “No no, you must always keep a gift!” Oh oh. In Morocco, I was ignorant enough to say something was very pretty and the host gave it to me. These are things serious global minimalists need to know!

  • kano

    there is website it will be up and running next week it is called http://www.swapmypresents.com it can help people with unwanted presents to get what they really want

  • http://www.facebook.com/mitch.lewis76 Mitch Lewis

    Having read your original post and follow-up, you still seem to be surprised by the emotional response to your highly emotive post. As a fan of your approach generally and as somebody who has made many changes to my life as a result of your site, I have to say this post seemed to have little purpose but to belittle a friend. Posting a picture of the gift further sharpened this impression. Claiming they were unlikely to read it was no defence – if anything, that marked you as a coward and the fact you left explicit gifting instructions may speak to the reality of society (where gifts are given from expectation and not from love) but, whether the impression was correct or not, it said much more about your sense of entitlement – I believe this is what offended many people. You may have approached the task of writing this post with the best of intentions and simply gotten carried away but pieces like yours simply diminish your cause and yourself as a leader. You may want to project an image of a worldly person but your worldview came across as very narrow indeed. Be brave, and keep change happening but do it with grace. Minimalist lifestyles are worthy but you don’t have to be a small person to live that way.